Hehe....Hey ya know what? IB.....you still have a store at 3DC....and access to the vendors forum....LOL...tho no one uses it... Ok, so our site is boring....we still have good fun, and good stuff...... just fewer train wrecks. ;) Side note: Voicing an opinion does not make you a trouble maker. There are other places to go to support your friends and community. Renderosity is NOT the only place to shop. http://www.3dcommune.com/ http://www.poserpros.com http://www.3-darena.com http://www.animotions.com/ (sorry if I left anyone out.) Jackie 3D Commune Admin.