"Nuke them (Renderosity) from orbit, it's the only way to be absolute certain" I KNOW Ironbear doesn't need anyone to step up and stick up for him but if you'd read the posts pertaining to that signature you'd have known why he used it. This whole thing is ridiculous. Do you seriously think that people are out there trying to 'get' Renderosity? Paranoia plus. I'm privvy to any conversation that goes on in the admin forum at Poser Pros and I can tell you right now there are no secret plans to steal TIO's darkness generator and launch a massive attack on the Renderosity death star. We have more important things to do, like run our site in a way as to not piss off our top selling merchants and push them away to other sites where they make us no money. Like keeping our membership happy with helpful tutorials, full-fledged discussions with no bannings, even when Doc goes nuclear with the cussing :) Get off the paranoia train Tim. We cold care less if Renderoisty fails or survives. Nothing we do (and take that as an inclusive 'we'of everyone you think is out to get Renderosity) will make an iota of difference now anyway. YOU are the one who is going to either frell the place completely or change your attitude and take it back to the way it was 2 years ago. I just hope it isn't the first option. This was my home once :/