Yes, but Poppi, one of the graphics you promoted as being an example of art you admired was completely made up of Marketplace models (the human figures in all their plastic skin glory, the costume, and the dragon and I doubt if the textures were original either). It's nice that people can do things from scratch, but that's not what everyone wants. If you want to do it from scratch, celebrate yourself but don't denigrate other people in the course of it. That's all the rest of us are asking....let us have our fun without making it seems as if we are doing something wrong just because we aren't accomplishing our goal in the same way you are. My goal isn't your goal. And just because I don't like the art you admire doesn't make the art bad or me wrong...it just means that we don't share the same tastes in graphics. Why does this become an us versus them thing, when we could respect each others right to create the way we want without competition or infringing on each otehr?