dialyn states: "Yes, but Poppi, one of the graphics you promoted as being an example of art you admired was completely made up of Marketplace models (the human figures in all their plastic skin glory, the costume, and the dragon and I doubt if the textures were original either)." see, even though i enjoy making as much as i can on my own...i do appreciate the works of others who use the poser tools creatively. where is the conflict, here? Niles wrote: "What rubbs me the wrong way is the "gang of 20"... as soon as it is posted, "VOTE" click ... OMG,excellent,awsome,wonderful, ect...and the some people (voting) will pass up other art of equall or better merit" at least most of them honestly win it by voting for each other. how about someone with 5 comments and 19 votes getting into the 20 by posting shortly after midnight...then, getting 14 anonymous votes in the hours between midnight and 6 am? give me a break. i can spell "clone"...can the rest of you? can the ptb, here? something should be done about stuff like this. i don't understand flat out cheating. i guess i never will.