Kylara, put one or two real trees in the open where you can see them - at this scale a whole bunch of real trees might be a waste of time. The eagle seems to stand out of the picture - maybe put a (powder blue) spotlight on him or something and play around with that? clouds(?) All in all a great pict: I had just gotten through replying to some illiberal sob on the ot forum that wanted to send our kids to war and for some reason was really stirred up. I came to the Bryce forum to calm downand saw the heading "freedom" and checked this out. It immediately calmed me down, and I said yes this is what it's all about. Thank you, and also thank you for your timing it could not have been better. Where'd you get that great eagle By the Way? cheers, - TJ