Ahh, yeap, but the thing I was going for was not so much the building of a two-headed character bu just an illustration of the concept of siamesing the actors together... was more of a technical study of concept than anything. a poser file, in order: 1) reads in geometry from whatever source and declares elements 2) assigns those elements channels 3) builds figures using existing elements anything that is parented at the time of figure building that is not declared in a figure block is thus trated like a prop the :# naming scheme is used by Poser to allow the same definition file to change the name on load to a new number to allow multiple figures withthe same body parta to be loaded. the _# sceme for props does the same thing. It seems odd that they took two seperate approaches to this. I was more interested in getting expirimentation with how one goes about building figures and what elements one uses to do so. The goal was more to stimulate siamesing the figure blocks themselves than to build an actual siamese twin or two-headed figure.