Yep thats the BMP file I was talking about...Now where in the code does it show how and where the program references the Materials for the models?I would love to see an OBP model in all its glory first without haveing to import and apply all textures then rendering it just to see I dont like it,this will save so much time...I am going to go and check out a few things in Bryce and then I got to go to work,will check back later today to see the progress...