I happen to agree in most cases with you Tom, however, I've always considered the Poser Hot20 to be a vote from my peers, rather than just a popularity vote which is what it has become. For instance...last night I was watching Star Search. It gave an opportunity for the viewing audience to participate by logging on to their website and voting. Well, I logged on to find out that only people in the eastern and central time zones could vote because of the time delay telecast for the mountain and pacific zones (I live in the pacific zone). Was that fair that only a portion of the country could make their opinion known? Not particulary, but those were the guidelines that the network had set up, and one had to deal with them whether they liked the situation or not. What has happened in the recent past with the Poser Hot20 is that a few people are members of graphic newsgroups and have gotten the members of those newsgroups to create an account here at Renderosity for the sole purpose of voting and commenting on images. Regardless of what each of us as an individual thinks of the Hot20 and how the ratings are achieved, someone is not going to be 100% in total agreement with it. That's life in that respect. But we do have the right to voice our opinions or suggestions and be non complacent.