gstorme, Sometimes the later commercial versions are much improved, though. For example, I stumbled over a zipped file called Golden Gown in my archives, but knew that I'd not purchased it from PhilC or the Marketplace. So, I installed it to check it out and, yes, it was Phil's dress, but a basic version without the morphs or fancy textures. I queried him, and it had indeed been a freestuff item a couple of years ago. After it had been morphed, regrouped, remapped, and had a half-dozen very fancy gold and velvet textures added, it was certainly a candidate for a commercial package. I can understand a modeler offering a freebie while learning a new tool or process, or while in development of a theme (such as carousel animals) or in order to test interest, to offer something seasonal, or just out of human generosity. When the item is of high quality, we should just pounce and be glad. Carolly