Well, let me give you my take on Stephanie: She is a female figure that happens to use Mike mesh, except she got a new hip (and maybe head, I can't remember). She has two versions, Stephanie and "Vickie Shape", the last lets her wear some Vickie clothing, but the real shape is better (and proabbly better than Vickie 1 or 2), The clothing I have for her at DAZ works with her real shape, incidently. If you use the "Vickie shape", she really isn't an improvement over Vickie in any way, unless you want to use Mike morphs (except for the hip) or textures. In her real shape is isn't "manly" at all, BTW!