No, I will NOT go away, Anton. If you're gonna cite stuff like this, then you'd damn well better be able to prove unequivocably that these people were maliciously ripping you or DAZ off. Luna, yeah, I can understand, but now you're trolling the Freestuff area for things that somehow "prove" your case. Yeah, maybe people can reverse engineer from these things, but that requires a level of expertise that not many of us -- myself included -- have. And when I create a morph file for myself, it's an .obj -- just like these, just like every damn morph at Duane's ToyBox for that matter, and just like every other damn morph I have in my archives. SO IT'S A FUCKING INNOCENT MISTAKE, and why the hell you can't see that completely escapes me. So go after Luna, as you should. But the rest of these? Gimme a break.