heyas; because, trash in your object (and cr2) is trashy. people do export the objs to other apps, and the hidden stuff might pop out and annoy them. etc etc. but that's just me. okay, 'addtomenu' is ignored, but there's another tag there that does work. are you sure hidden isn't invisible AND non-selectable and not in the menu? whaddya want me to do, look it up in my book?