PheonixRising: "If you want to ignore someone who attacks you that is your right. I choose not to if the person won't stop after I have asked them to stop."

Me: As far as I'm concerned you 2 can have at it until the cows come home or you get banned for TOS violations...which will probably be soon based on the attacks you 2 are lobbing at each other.

PheonixRising: "I still feel that a new process of submission is needed. Lady Luna's first batch of 12 dresses wasn't brought to my attention until three months had past."

Me: For the record, Freestuff isn't "submitted", it's not stored on Renderosity's servers. It's not Renderosity's responsibility to download and check every mesh to see if it's legal...and I see no reason to make it their responsibility! Sorry about your losses Anton. Gee, since your stuff is so widely pirated, perhaps it would be in your best interest to download every item posted in the Freestuff on every site in the community and compare it to your meshes so that you can catch it sooner!

PheonixRising: "If there would be better guidelines and restictions posted as they upload then there would be no reason for any second offenses."

Me: There are guidelines...as to restrictions...as long as the items and their thumbs fall within the TOS that's the only restriction that should be required.

EricofSD: "Easiest thing is to give a warning on the upload page and act when violations are reported."

Me: Sounds fair to me Eric!

ryamka: "The best that they can do is develop a policy and apply it consistently. This includes immediate removal of links from the download page; a specific, written policy that is on the download front page; the immediate and absolute banning of users that have been caught violating the terms (no one-strike, two strikes."

Me: I agree, that's a sensible solution.

Since the items in question are not "warez" per se, but cut and pasted pieces of copyright material disguised as original creations, and since the items are not stored on Renderosity's servers I don't see this falling under the same category as pure "warez" and don't think this site should be or would be held responsible for such items. The same holds true for 3D Arena, 3DC, Renderotica, PoserPros or any other site that hosts freestuff or links to freestuff.

Although I have sympathy for your plight Anton, and agree that anyone redistributing copyrighted material without permission should be banned when caught...I don't feel it's Renderosity's responsibility to screen every item and check it for legality. Once Renderosity is alerted, removes the item, and bans the poster...it becomes an issue between you and the thief. I realize that you have found your items being blatently traded on p2p and that has impacted your profits, but that is not the problem you have here.

Personally, after seeing your behavior and your attacks on others that have posted...I'm surprised you haven't been banned for TOS violations as a result of personal attacks (oh...and just for the record...the same goes for VirtualSite). Maturity, civility, and manners are good business traits...I haven't seen much of that.

That's my 2 cents!