Well, I can tell you from personal expereince, much of what Daz provides appears in the P2P environment, as well as Usenet. I work in the 3D app industry, and my company produces applications and plugins for other applications, some available commercially and others are purchased by the big guys and used in their apps. I can tell you for a fact, one thing that we do is keep track of the amount of piracy that occurs of our apps. Where possible, we contact the user's domain and have their account shut down under threat of law. Yeah, we know it does no good as there are 100 for every one we shut down. However, now we have a new tool, at least for us. While copy protection can be cracked, we have developed little programs that go in and put identifiers in the applications. These identifiers can be likened to ID numbers. They are all the same size and made up of the same characters so that if any warez kiddie tries to search for it, any differences between a legal copy from X and a legal copy from Y will CRC out to be the same, ie no difference. So we can then obtain copies of the app or plugin from the Internet, and trace the ID number back to the person/Company to whom the app was originally sold. The warez kiddies have no tools to track down the identifiers among all the rest of the code, and we can pinpoint the leaks and deal with the "leaking party" personally. Usually this is in the form of a strong suggestion to pay for additional licenses or suffer the invalidation of their current licenses or legal action. It sucks, but hey you have to at least try. Hopefully this sight will come up with a GOOD policy, not just A policy, and they will be covered for all intents and purposes. It would be shame for this site to be hit by severe legal actions. - Ray