i have tried it: setup a simple scene with two fire props a said above, moved the props out of the zero position, saved the file, reloaded it and the omnilights are in the zero position. parented them to the prop,saved,reloaded and they were in the right place. new scene,added one prop from the GL folder,with the main camera all grey, the other work( the plate with fire was the prop i used) GraphicFoxx: strange behavior: all lights suddenly turning dark or changing color when turning the dials only a bit and turning back doesnt help