Hmmmm, I tend to agree with Carolly (#67) - give it a bit of time, it'll probably come good all by itself (when not demanded)... Regarding the comments about 4.++++ - hell guys, I bought Poser 5 as a first-time user, and sure, I've experienced crashes and problems along the way, but there are a lot of VERY good features in it. It frustrated me a lot to set up a scene and then see the render crash (not to mention other problems like collision detection), but there are workarounds for some of the problems (like lights - if the scene is a little bit complex, then the lights should all be set for render, not displacement mapping. O.K. it shouldn't be necessary, but if I buy paints and brushes, and don't get the results that I want, then I work with the tools that I've got. And P5 can give good results, if one is willing to work with the tools and their limitations...) ok, just my 2 cents' worth