CB, Ok. That explains everything. There are several things you can do now. If you have a figure that you use the prop with in scenes, that's fine. Parent the prop to it and when you save the figure, the prop will save along with it. If you have no figure you want to use, there are 2 alternatives. One is to use any figure at all, (preferably a small file-size one and fairly simple), set the body scale size to 1%, then make it invisible, (select BODY, go to properties and uncheck visibility). That way, your prop is parented, but you don't have to see a figure all the time. You can also save this figure + prop in characters too. Or else you can get a thing called a Null Figure (from www.nerd3d.com), which is a blank, invisible figure used to prevent crosstalk. But it also works perfectly as an invisible figure to parent props to. mac