Name : Crescent Poser 4: Intermediate for all but lighting. Lighting-beginner Bryce 4: Intermediate Corel Photo: Beginner-Intermediate No plug-ins. 3ds Max: Beginner (Does it every get any easier?) Rhino: Beginner I'm best at cross-platform stuff. I may not figure out the right way to do things, but I can often kludge together something, taking about 3 times as long to do it and astounding everyone at how I can take something so easy and make it so complicated. ;-)