*"Yeah I get it wolfie.......its all about money....its all about sales.....yeah I get it......"* Actually you dont greeny. you see the poser userbase that you refer to as "No class cloners" I see as paying customers. I notice you dont have a store here , and you deleted your rosity gallery of Naked vickies rendered in lightwave. Do you sell your original "artistic" models anywhere??? Can you post a URL?? what Cg company do you work for? what film projects are they producing?? Its Not ALL about money and sales but the noble starving artist routine went out in the 1960's. when you posted that silly rant in the lightwave forum implying that Anton kissel was a cry baby because his original lightwave meshes were being stolen and redistributed, you made it fairly obvious that you have an irrational deep seated hatred of any one who associates with poser (Lightwave usage not withstanding) strange behavior from a former naked vicki/stephanie **POSER** user. ............strange indeed :-/

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