Heck with indirect lighting. I'm trying to figure out good settings for caustics. My only problem with indirect lighting is the clash of spectrums I seem to experience. I know the whole over 100% thing is bad but I need to go over 100% to get the amplified light look I am going for. Although even if I have the lighting equaled out to 100% the colors mix and I get odd colors. I still need to post an example I'll try to do that later tonight to show you what I mean in a new thread, this one is getting to large:) Brian