thanks guys. Kurt, we might have a few more up our sleeves....there'll be a little pause on this series, need to get on with the WIP you saw the other day...how does 2-3 weeks sound for part 3? lol@dodger.....i had ALL my tattoos done in seedy little back street parlours just like this one....just drawing on personal experience, which i wear sleeved on both arms and (a bit) on my chest :-) On a totally differant track, you are renowned for your lights I believe. Might have a proposition for you....IM me if if you're up for an idea...! cheers all, Andi, 3dmodelz