LOL@pablo, I know. I broker through DAZ and steve was my contact before he switched over to PR. What's even more shocking is that they reply personally to every e-mail! No 'teams' or avatars. LOL. mac PS What do 'The Curious Labs Team' do when they make an announcement? Do they all gather round the keyboard and take turns to peck out the letters, so it's a 'team' effort? Heh, heh. We'll laugh them out of this sooner or later.