I thought Renderosity put this to bed. As far as I know and I have read the email they sent to Gloria (Lady Luna) all this was settled and finished. This forum should be taken down Anton. Enough is enough. You got your appology now it is time to take this down. Oh a word for all you out there. Gloria has been learning Cinema 4DGo and is modeling her own meshes now. With the help of Serge and his wonderful tutorials he is giving her she is learning how to do splines and make her own meshes. Instead of looking at this old forum why don't you check out her free stuff she is now offering here at Renderosity! Some of it is simple but she's learning. She's working on a dress or skirt at the moment, not too sure. She called me like 1:00 am in the morning so I was half asleep. Anyway, I am very proud of her for learning something she thought she would never be able to do! Congratulations MOM!