I run ATHALON XP2600/333MHZ BUS, 1GB PC3200DDR, WIN 2000. Using V3, high res tex, and Dynamic hair, rendered only about half of a 30 frame AVI overnight. I haven't tried again. Feeling a little sore aren't we? By the looks of these forums, it seem's to be that keeping things short and sweet is the only way anything will get done in P5, at least for now. I'm sorry if you are sobbing at the moment, I know I am.