J said: "And one wonders why you thought that would be said..or better yet, why it shouldnt have been..." Me: Well that might be because I've seen that sort of approached used so many times one would think ALL women were oppressed, mistreated and slaves under Gor. Next will come the arguement that if people think that it is okay to do it to a virtual 3D mesh of a woman then they will think it's okay for it to happen to real women... you know, the moral majority view regarding censorship of porn arguements will soon follow. A real hoot to watch!! I so look forward to it!! J said: "First off, Renderosity had that responsibility Jack.. Second, The rest of us might not have wanted ALL the banners taken off..ever think of that? read the threads over again, and maybe a little slower if ya missed it" Me: Renderosity OWES no responsiblity outside of the Agreement and TOS that vistors MUST accept before becoming members here. In fact, though I am not sure if it is still in place, but I remember a clause that stated that you had to be over a certain age or have parential permission before becoming a member here. Did I ever think of that? Well gee, considering I told everyone that I didn't see the filtering option coming to pass when this subject first arose and even asked that they'd consider it rather than the road that they choose on your behalf, I'd say I had a pretty good handle on the whole development, thankyouverymuch. And your particular brand of sarcasm is duely noted as the cannon fodder that it is. J said: "Talking to you people and trying to get you to see our point is like talking to a stump..worthless and a waste of time.. Why we should even remotely bother caring about your views and opinions is beyond me, Altho, we DID attempt it as you do not do the same in return." Me: Perhaps you need to go back a few threads, yourself, to see that I DID see the points you were trying to make and WHY I DON'T agree with them. The addage of: "Practice what you preach comes to mind here" and also should be applied to taking responsible for your own Internet Browsing. Your feeble attempts at "trying to get us to see your point" comes across more like an attempt to convert us to Christianity or the Watchtower. Made EVEN more apparent when you add the line: "Why we should even remotely bother caring about your views and opinions is beyond me" I never asked for you to bother caring what my views were or what my opinion may be, I only asked that Renderosity be mindful of them while passing a judgement that you asked to have enforced. I don't need to be "Saved" from banner advertisements. I don't need to be "Saved" from embarrassement at showing this site to my family members, friends or kids. I am not the one that is asking Renderosity to "SAVE" me from the evils of merchandising, sexual conontations, innuendo or the barest hint of synthetic flesh... if memory serves me... that would've been... oh yeah... YOU. Save your religon, viewpoints and opinions for someone that would actually give a fuck about them, don't try selling them to me... I am happy with the way I am. Jack