Well, what would you expect from a company that has risen from small beginnings to THE dominant supplier of poser figures and accessories in a few years? I don't want to say 'Bye, bye, CL', but look what happened to the dinosaurs. If CL want to stay in the game, (and getting rid of staff isn't the way to do it!), they'd better have some fairly huge sleeves with surprises up them. Why do I doubt this scenario? DAZ has shown, and continues to show the poser community how to run a successful business. Anyone ever wondered exactly HOW we got vicki 3? Because DAZ had the sense to offer brilliant poser USERS a job!! What do CL do? Get rid of the people we had the most faith in. Oh boy... Now.... how can I get rid of my unused, uninstalled poser 5? mac >wanders off with tray shouting "ALBATROSS! ALBATROSS! PELICAN BON-BON! Of course you don't get wafers with it, ya cks*er!!"