heh, just what i wanted! i like violent debates, and Rayraz, there's 4 parts that make up clock speed, hertz is just 1, macs are averaged out, and windoze has just loads of mega/gigahertz, dont mean their faster, it's just the part that ppl compare. Windoze isnt faster. ttops, thx for the info, i was mostly guessin, cuz i do like debates