I think we'll probably see Mac versions of both Poser 5 and DAZ Studio Base by autumn. CuriousLabs announced that they do have a Mac version of P5 up and running, but it isn't quite ready for public release. Since DAZ wants a million people to download Studio by year's end, I imagine it'll arrive at least a few months before 2004 begins. It wouldn't surprise me if DAZ releases the Studio beta for the Mac later than the Wintel version (since we had to wait a bit for DialCleaner), but it would surprise me if the delay between the Mac and PC releases of Studio takes as long as the delay between the Mac and PC versions of P5. This modularity thing with Studio has some great potential, especially since DAZ wants to keep the pricing competitive when the add-ons arrive. Even if the Mac version of P5 gets here first, it appears likely that DAZ Studio will be faster, better, and cheaper--even with the charges for posing, animation, etc. And of course, the free OpenGL, OS X-native beta will render much more efficiently than P4 presently does in Classic. My predictions (not based on inside knowledge!)-- - Mac P5: April or May - DAZ Studio beta (PC): August - DAZ Studio beta (OSX): August or September