Sorry for the insult, BeatYourSoul. I didn't mean it to come off nastily, but apparently it did. Its just that I, like TCSP, feel no need to purchase or use V3, when the P5 figures are more easily (and cheaply) avaliable (since I don't have to spend additional money for them beyond the cost of P5 itself.) Maybe I'm just justifying to myself, but I always feel some small need to defend Don and Judy when people start saying how "ugly" they are. I'll agree that the body morphs on D&J aren't always what they could be, though twisting a few dials can make some impressive changes. The face room works remarkably well for making unique characters quickly (especially for extras or bit players in a scene). If I'm looking for a specific character, I do take the time to carefully adjust face room morphs and sometimes retexture the skin in Paint Shop Pro. Then again, I just do this for fun, and don't mind spending time teaching myself the best ways to work with the tools (figuring out how to import, texture, and bone my first custom object took around a week, on and off- but I can do it in under an hour now that I know how.) I guess it depends on what you look for out of your figures/programs. Some of us want quick customization with a decent price tag, some prefer working from the ground up for free (ie, custom face room morphs based on the P5 figures). So, don't knock Judy, and I won't knock V3 (though she still looks too much like a supermodel for my tastes... ;) )