Previous (fully working) releases of Pixels3D are regularly put on the cover cds of mags in the uk (Digit/Macworld etc) - dunno what the latest freebie version is - maybe it'll say on their site? I've used a very old version on an ancient 7500/100 Pmac - very slow, but some interesting tools - the files also seemed to export fine into other things I was using at the time. Well worth investigating imo. I now use Wings (on a pc) and also suggest you should try this - totally different way of working to P3D - but excellent (imo) for modelling many types of objects - and very easy to pick up the workflow. pp