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Hello Niles, yes, so do I. I think they broke off business with Curious Labs, or CL with them. I don't know the details. Poser 5 is very different from Poser 4, but not a bad program. I personally prefer Poser 4, since it's renders are better quality, and ten times faster. I trust CL however to come with an update, so that Poser 5 will make better use ofit's FireFly render engine. There is a lot of capability there. Cheers, Paul Christiaan