Thanks for the great responses. I am hoping to have him finished late tonight. Here is a pic of the eye, ear and teeth texture. The lights and compression washed out some detail. I have a total of 5 hours so far in him .I like to work on other projects at the same time. I want to do a sec head texture and morph for him. It needs to be along the same line, like maybe some orc type similar to lord of the ring Any suggestions for morph number 2? Please post any ideas and if you can find any reference pics let me know