I have no idea what you just said Lyrra lol. I did however try spawning a full body morph with the bodyshape but it didn't work. I have however made a pair of pants, but as you can see I am once again stuck at the conforming part. If anyone wants to give it a go I can supply the mesh for the pants. As you can see the pants were modelled around the second Bishonen bodytype, in a zeroed position they fit perfectly. But I suck soooo bad at conforming, never did get it right. if anyone can help with conforming, email me on my hotmail account as my main email address is still not working as yet. tauranoxx@hotmail.com