<< I can't find the transparent option, where is it? >> Edit -> UI prefs -> Menu Bkgnd (say) -> A (Alpha) slider (adjust this) << then i like to just see my model so im wierd >> Well, there's at least 2 members of the 'weird club' :) Whilst it's great to be able to work in a 'comfortable' environment (check out 0.80 to see how much has improved) - it's surely the quality of what's being made (and the tools available) that's most important? Does painting the handle of your favourite carving chisel make you a better carver - or how you use it and how well the cutting edge is honed? Ask yourself the 'Bay' question - with the current Wings toolset, would he be able to make his usual quality of model? - or would he need a 'prettier / more pro 'looking' UI to do this? I suspect we all know the answer :) pp