"maybe members here can start trying to increase there skills by putting clothes on a figure instead of quickly making a nude pose pressing a button to render and quickly upload it to renderosity......" My very first renders here were fully dressed. I thought it was important to grasp that concept before doing whatever I chose to render. I still tend to some fully dressed renders but I prefer to showcase the shadow, lights & creativity achieved whatever the model might or might not be wearing. I've never had a render that was just pressing a button & rendering quickly. I tend to try using filters & other methods of post work. l probably explains my once a month gallery postings. As for making a stink I only answered the above question with all the information relevant to the situation. Like it or not thats how the events played out. FYI my banners do not contain nudity. The one of mine that did was rotated out & it was just a naked back....from what I understand even though no naughty bits were exposed its now unacceptible. Its no big deal to me I really needed to make a new one anyway.