I really thought this was a Photoshop "help" forum. It's become a battlegound. If you never needed more than the Adobe manual then you are the one losing out on what Photoshop offers. Do I find the Photoshop manual covers every aspect in the great detail? No, it doesn't. As I said before, the recommended reading for the ACE test is not the manual Photoshop comes with, it's "Adobe Photoshop 7 Classroom in a Book". They would not come out with other books on the subject if the manual was good enough. If you can't recommend any books then why post anything at all?