Thanks for the update. But if P5 is running so crummy on a P4 3.06 ghz system, how is it going to run on my Mac G4 dual 450 with 1GB ram? Likley not good. My other apps run extremley well. By other apps I mean Carrara 2, Strata 3.8, Vue 4.1 (runs awesome with the ATI Radeon 8500!), Photoshop 7, etc, etc, etc,. Anyway here's to hopping you guys get it right. By the way: "To fully support the entirely new engineering standards from Apple, and to ensure the stability of the Mac OSX version, Curious Labs has decided to extend the time spent on development and quality assurance..." What does this mean? What new engineering standards? Are you referring to programming using Cocoa or Carbon? As for carbon, an app can be carbonized without a complete rewrite. I am afraid this looks like an escape goat to me.... -Paul