Thanks dj, that's a new one. Could be that's a mesh problem I'll take a look at that over the weekend and see if there's some funky normals in there or something. Raven, the P5 balloon effect is (I think) because of smoothing. I don't know if anyone has the patience to go through and turn smoothing off on all the body parts (there's rather a lot) or find the switch in the cr2 and set that to 0 rather than 1. Turning smoothing off should fix the balloon problem. And that's been my experience so far with Pro Pack... some it works fine for, others have missing body parts or only the left arm appearing. Damned if I can figure out why this happens so randomly.