Then I make Paint Shop Pro tubes out of them. ha ha LMAO. Thst's a good one, I like it. It works. Um the lighting. Your doing somthing wrong. I don't know what. I don't play with the ambient to compinsate. Oh Maybe turn the ambiant of the actual textures up. That will cure it. Remember this is way off in the distance trees you still have to use real trees up close. Remember your faking it you prbibly have to use some ambiant light on the plain textures or you'll have to burn the images when you render them in the first place. I personally thing you got it backwads. I'm sitting in a room right now that is totally lit with ambiant light. The light source is somewhere in the south my room faces north. You need more ambiant IMHO than direct light.