I want to play too! Name: anvilhead E-mail: j.barniskis@worldnet.att.net Apps:/level Poser4.x/Average to frustrated. Bryce4.x/Addicted. UVmapper/I understand the concept anyways. Photoshop4.1 le/Begginer. Elefont1(makes beveled dxf's from your fonts)/Pretty easy. Spiralizer1(makes dxf spirals/shells)/Also easy. L-System4(makes dxf plants/trees)/Can get it to work. Xara3d3(does raised 3d text with shadows)/Easy. Painter3d/Haven't had time. I have a large collection of models and morph targets.