@ Jim Burton: Yeah, well, if you don't shout, you get left out. I never experienced anything like this before, and I have bought many products from many sources. So I was completely stuck: I was convinced I had all the patches. And I had invested heavily into V3, because she is an awesome model. If they had told me they where continuing to think about the cause of the prob, I certainly wouldn't have shouted, because DAZ are the very best, indeed. Poser is an old proggie and it changed hands a couple of times. I patched mine up continuously as new patches became available, until somewhere I read "this is the final patch". So I didn't check out curiouslabs download area. What can I say? Does everybody else have the right patch? Well, then I guess I'm stupid. Can't help that either.