Carolly, you missed the point entirely. I HAVE Poser 5. Yet I mainly still use ProPack because for most of the stuff I do since Poser 5 is too slow and I don't need the new features all the time, even most of the time. And a 3rd party library manager simply is no substitute for what P5 gave us. And anyway we have to get Poser 4 users away from those damnable rsr's so we can all use pngs.