heyas; thanks guys. the hand looks good... i kinda expected more polys on the hand and less in the fingers, but it looks nice. however, i'm not to optimistic about the vertebrae. there's just not much there to morph. a ridge could stick out, but if you wanted the nubby lumbar bumps... ah well. i see some work was done on that sacrum area, and that looks very nice. just wish the spine had similar treatment.