Ron, You can get some great stuff in platinum club, like Anton's hair for a start. Lots of hair actually :) Not to mention lots of the back catalog. Thinks like the Eagle and the charger for $1.99 a pop. I've no use for an eagle, but the wings are fabulous :) It actually made quite a difference to the v3 bill I can tell you that, I think it cost me $75 bucks for the lot, which is a fair bit cheaper than retail :) Good to have you back, I though they'd exiled you to poserpros, somebody posted to a very old thread last week and I got all nostalgic :) later jb