I'll have a try at it, but you should contact Nerd for a more exact description. 1- you must have an IK created for your long stick. That means you have to transform it from prop to character, and then create an IK for this character. 2- Turn the IK on for your long stick character. Turn the IK off for the arms of your figure. 3- select your long stick character. Go to the figure menu, click "set figure parent", select "right hand". 5- select the part of your long stick character which is the furthest away from the right hand. In the "object" menu click "set figure parent" and parent it to the LEFT hand. 6- Move the right hand, the stick and the left hand should follow. 7- try to figure what happened to that stupid step 4. If your stick is not a character and you don't know how to transform it into one, then try with a chain cr2, there are plenty in the freestuff. To be totally honest, this technique works but is somewhat disapointing : it has the same flaw as the regular IK : sometimes the positions achived are totally unrealistic. As for myself, I use it very rarely. Compiler