Yes Rena, some time ago I did approach BVH - he wasn't selling anywhere and I thought his work looked wonderful, however he wanted me to buy him vicki before I had seen what he could do, I didn't want to he didn't want to sell yet he said and I was fine with that - I had thought he and Netherworks would make a great team, but it was no skin off my nose either way. If I'd had a personal grudge against him for that I wouldn't have bought anything he created - anyone who knows me knows that. I respect wherever he or anyone chooses to sell makes no nevermind to me. I also only posted this here and one other forum, not 3 forums, because I truly want feedback from other merchants and customers - obviously I am not alone in my concept of an item fitting a default vicki. As I said above - repeatedly, if the bodice only had the abdomen protruding I would have dealt with it more than likely - I would have been annoyed but I would have dealt with it. Jeff's response to this has been to show an unposed Vicki so we won't see crunching - that's not a solution. But come on Rena we aren't talking a problem with only one outfit - I'm talking about 3 different and distinct products that I bought that had serious issues. I realize that you consider this personal, it isn't and never was. The design concept is stunning as I have stated over and over again. In fact I have been careful to state that the outfit would be perfect if adjusted. Yes I did buy his gothic pants and top - I had looked at them and not purchased them when I bought POWL. I hadn't opened POWL yet and wasn't concerned about it, after all I hadn't had any serious issues here before. Then you contacted me and I was touched, it hadn't occureded to me to ask you for it, due to your offer I decided to go ahead and get the Gothic outfits as your textures were fabulous. I contacted you originally to ask if when you textured the gothic pants you had had any problems with the invisible pants thing. I also assured you that your re-mapped version worked just fine. Then yes we got into a discussion regarding the POWL - but no matter how tight you want it to be that crunching isn't acceptable. Slander is when I say something intentionally that I can not prove with the intention to create harm or undermine business. The images above speak for themselves. Furthermore I have specifically repeated that the outfit designs are gorgeous and that I had been interestd in further purchases form him. My issue here is that an item created for a character should fit her in default mode and the store testing states it doesn't have to but that a customer should adjust the default character. Furthermore if the item had openly stated the the soften hip morph had to be turned off it would have been less of an issue - although the bulging is still an issue regardless of soft hip or not. Ultimately after your explanations of the reasons we agreed that we would never agree on it, that does not mean that I had to accept it why would you think that it does? If you buy something at the department store and teh zipper doesn't work do you accept it or take it back? I didn't know that our friendship meant I had to agree with you I usually realize that everyone has their own opinions and is entitled to them. I would have been this aggravated and frustrated no matter who had created the product and I wanted to get public opinion because as I said above Jeff is only showing images with the arms straight out.. Sadly I thought that you would realize that just because I don't agree about this product (and my only issue here is the modelling and file placements) that didn't mean I was slamming you, your work or

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