I subscribed to your idea when I first started using bryce too Drac but I do agree some also with tjohn in the fact that this is a kick butt program.I happen to be making a little animation for a client and bryce is proving to be killer in rendering in .avi and quicktime formats.Importing from poser, and 3ds are awesome also.I personallly like the look of a bryce render before it is taken into other programs for further tuning.I have noticed here...in Renderosity in general... that it is very difficult not to use all the programs that are at our disposal and to call a pic "Bryce" or "Poser" doesn't seem to tell the whole truth it seems.If there is not a general challenge using all of our programs maybe we here in the Bryce forum should propse this to other forums and possibly get one going and make the individual challenges "Strictly" there own or disqualify the entry.Think of the participation then ...and I would like to see some "Pure" Bryce :)...long winded I know...