heya; tesign: you know, the blue gunk you get when you have too many transparencies layered over each other. :) and yes, painter 5 has layers. i cannot paint on an empty layer. i cannot create a new layer and paint on it. i can only paint on a layer that is there, and has something in it. see? black canary; this is the p3/p4 cat, with modified scaling and the 9lives morphs, with extra mesh slicing and new texture mapping. you can download it at www.poserworld.com. you'll need objaction mover to decode it, and, of course, the original cat model. the eyes are part of the head; they dont move. however, they can be partly closed, i just didn't do it. i should have.