looking at the picture above, I think the pants ARE affected by export setting problems I had. It looks lumpier than the top. Lumpy was a symptom of the problem I was having with an earlier version of the top. I just hope I saved a version of the mesh not affected so I can fix it. Well if I am going to do that I may as well package the top and pants together, is that ok with everyone? It makes a larger download putting them together, but if you guys don't mind waiting a little longer... :)