When you read this, remember that I am very grateful for your help folks :) That being said... ARGHHHHH!! I don't know what Im doing wrong. Either my objects in the scene come out too dark, or everything has to have its reflection and ambiance bumped way up. To me that makes the materials and textures look like crap. The only thing that seems to work for me is to make everything at least 25% reflective, but when I do that I loose the color of the object, so I increase ambaince, then the object looks like a darn washed out mirror. I just don't grasp what I am doing wrong. If anyone could be so kind as to send me a scene with everything set right (The teddybear one looks great btw) maybe I can finally see what is wrong. -Maybe- my HDR jpg Im using isnt a good to use. Its a snow covered one from a web site that was giving one away for free.